Hi everybody, I put the paper on the ftp-site that I submitted to the cloud symposium that will be held in Delft, in October. In the paper, two methods for estimating cloud droplet concentration are applied to data from the Clare-campaign and the results are compared. The paper will give you an idea what I will talk about during the clare-workshop. I will look at some more cases and the results will be put in my final paper for the workshop. That paper will be put on the ftp-site as soon as possible. See you at the workshop, Jan Erkelens.